Jul 31, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20
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#321
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls
Guild: Liberators of Agony
Profession: Mo/R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
When I play a character without healing abilities, I learn how tough the job of a monk is.
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hehe, i feel the same way when i play my ranger, you kinda forget how strong even the weakest healing spells are compared to the other classes versions.(though troll ungeunts just as powerful its a bit slower to activate).Makes you respect everyone else a bit more, cause though it may be cool to say"i soloed that as a monk" and "armor is for wimps", the other guys are doing it with about the same lvl armor(cept warriors), and less healing to compensate it.
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Jul 31, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31
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#322
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Guild: A Most Excellent Guild [DUDE]
Profession: Mo/Me
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While monking, I have run into so many ignorant players (Sorry, but mainly Wammos) who have no clue what theyre doing. I notice the problem of idiotic players in prophecies more than factions, mainly due to running abuse; Though, in the lower areas of factions, such as the first few missions in the Ghettos it's almost impossible to find a competant group.
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Yesterday, I was bored and decided to go smiting in some random places for fun (I didn't buy the skills to not use them). I went to Thunderhead Keep and was almost automatically invited to a group. The leader asked me if I was ready and said sure; we left. About halfway through everyone throws a bitch-fit because I was smiting instead of healing them. My response was that I was enjoying the game and if they cared enough what build I was running, they should have asked.
Last edited by Venice Queen; Jul 31, 2006 at 06:42 PM // 18:42..
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Jul 31, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32
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#323
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Mo/Me
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The most frustrating party for me recently was a Rotscale farming group, where I was the only monk, but we did have a Rit Lord. As we're killing the enemies around Rot I start having a hard time keeping the warriors and everyone else alive. That's when 2 of the the Wammos start complaining about my lack of healing and pinging their health. I remark that I'm doing the best I can, but if they're not doing things to help me out (self-heals and stances) I can only do so much. One of them then calls that they're casting Healing Hands on themselves, which is an enchantment and only makes them take more damage from Rot (I didn't realize that fact at the time, or I really would have ripped into him). Thankfully the third tank was on my side and defended me from the other two. After the third or forth time the entire party died we all left and I added the two tanks to my Ignore list. If I ever party with them again they will not be getting any heals from me.
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Jul 31, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13
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#324
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Frost Gate Guardian
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If someone constantly pings their health I give them 1 warning to stop it, then I let them die and go about my business.
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Jul 31, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49
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#325
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Diego
Guild: Puppy Eating Zombie Cult
Profession: N/Me
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I hate using my monk now unless I am running with people I know, the two biggest problems I run into are A warrior that constantly runs into groups after a battle when I need a moment to recharge. I can ping my energy, I can say "Wait for recharge", and 9 times out of 10 some jerk runs in anyway and I have very little energy to heal with. This has been going on for so long I am getting used to it and do what I can by taking more energy management skills and being less liberal with the healing. However if players were more considerate or had any idea what so ever what the hell they were doing it would not be neccessary for me to make such changes.
The other problem, and this one is a HUGE pet peeve for me, seems to have come up relatively recently. Instead of creating a front line to keep the enemy tanks off of the group, the warrior will run into the back of the enemy group to attack their monk or other caster, leaving his entire team vulnerable to the enemy warriors, and most of the time effectively killing everyone and ending the mission. This happens ALOT and is frusterating the hell out of me. It is impossible to heal a team of 8 when 7 of them, including myself, are being attacked my a large group of enemy tanks. I know the enemy monk needs to be taken out, we all know that, but it's not going to do anyone any good if the entire team is dead. Wammos start piling again please, leave the monks to us.
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Aug 01, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52
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#326
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crayzechick
"Do your job, monk."
"Where is the healing, monk?"
"This group has no healing."
"wtf, why did I die monk?"
"Heal me!" (ya know, I'm not even going to see that because my eyes are glued to the red bars, not the chat).
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"i did, did you do yours? your death is screaming no to me.."
"this monk has no energy"
"because you moronically charged"
"healing spells have a range, try sticking with the group"
>_<
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Aug 01, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16
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#327
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: Primal Assassins
Profession: W/Mo
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I am a monk, But i HATE most monk players. They think they are the most important member on the team, and that the other players should do what they say, or the monk will leave.
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Aug 01, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20
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#328
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Greek Mafia
Profession: N/W
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i had fun with monks, but it ended up just being used as a smiter for the 2 or 3 knockdown moves it had in combo with my knockdown stuff for its ele subclass.
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Aug 01, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24
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#329
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Academy Page
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Profession: Mo/N
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I have not had many problems with my monk, only the odd team that did not have a clue. One War /mo decided to run to back of a mob and was down to 1/3 hp and to heal him I was forced to run into the mob to get to him.
On a positive while playing on my pre searing Monk this week I meet one of the nicest War/Mo ever. He had a name like Gentlemen War an LV 14 player.
He made me feel like I could do no wrong, he complemented my healing, asked if my hp was recharged. If a mistake was made, (on my part or his) he apologised saying he got overconfident (due to my great healing).
This was one of the most enjoyable experiences I have had in game playing a monk. At the end he even gave my character 12 red roses lol
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Aug 01, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34
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#330
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Defected back to America
Profession: Me/E
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I've started playing monk fairly recently. During my short time of playing it, I haven't really been verbally abused. I guess I should consider myself lucky
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Aug 01, 2006, 03:39 AM // 03:39
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#332
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: CA,USA
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Milias thats probably because you are good.Alot of monks do not do their job good enough.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Warrior
I am a monk, But i HATE most monk players. They think they are the most important member on the team, and that the other players should do what they say, or the monk will leave.
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I agree.Just because there is limited monks in the game when a monk join your party they think they are leaders and whatever they say goes.So I think the title of this thread should be "Monks Abusing Monk-Shortage".
I play a monk too and i have received some abuse but ost of the time i deserved it,sometimes I dont click fast enough,thats my fault and I accept that.
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Aug 01, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56
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#333
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Australia
Profession: Mo/
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Even good monks get abuse sooner or later.
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Aug 01, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15
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#334
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: [HiDE]
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I don't PUG much anymore. I normally get guildies to help me or take henchies. I don't want to be the victum of abuse or be abusive to others.
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Aug 01, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17
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#335
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Aequitas Deis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Warrior
I am a monk, But i HATE most monk players. They think they are the most important member on the team, and that the other players should do what they say, or the monk will leave.
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well YES monks are most important in the team because without at least 1 mission is failed (i count henchman as 1 monk as well, cuz they also run out of energy, just cant spam it). im sorry but if you are one of those wariors who dont see monk BEGGING to wait for his energy recharge and charge ahead in enemy backline leaving your team for enemy wariors and the monk is at 10 out of 52 energy, you better do what monks tell you to do cuz u simply dont get the concept of "team work"
Last edited by Maria The Princess; Aug 01, 2006 at 04:20 AM // 04:20..
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Aug 01, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18
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#336
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Greek Mafia
Profession: N/W
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i am sick of the monk abbuse too!!!
(any other comment will be censored)
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Aug 01, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07
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#337
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada
Guild: Demon of the Fall [Opet]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Hmm..I just went through all of Factions with my monk, and not a single commment regarding sucking has surfaced.
Eight months with my monk, and the only abuse that I've gotten was from my own friend, which was just a joke when I messed up in the Underworld.
Really lucky? Who knows. And yes, I have been going with PUGs.
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Aug 01, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18
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#338
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Wilds Pathfinder
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No its not lucky, the people that get flamed are the newbs using healing breeze on everyone and heal other to heal 50 damage. Seriously monking in pve is a joke and a half, if people are dying it should be obvious that you were gonna die as soon as you aggroed everything in a 5 mile radius, if your getting flamed your doing a pisspoor job.
Last edited by TadaceAce; Aug 01, 2006 at 05:20 AM // 05:20..
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Aug 01, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18
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#339
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada
Guild: Demon of the Fall [Opet]
Profession: Mo/Me
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I was wondering where this "abuse" came from. Healing Breeze, ha.
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Aug 01, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36
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#340
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Location: At my computer
Guild: Teh Nine [lll]
Profession: N/
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Yea, I just rescently made a monk in factions(same reason as the topic poster) (he's almost off noob island atm) and I've already seen the idiocy that you guys are talking about. In the first mission "minister cho's estate" we had a lvl 6 assassin who was using vampiric daggers. When I say his health start to degen at the begining of the mission......"damn"....... So I talk to him about it and he says he'll only use em in battle and switch to non-degen out of battle claiming he isn't a noob assassin.
Well, not only does he forget to switch daggers out of battle a few times but he also aggros everything, gets in two hits before he's down to 1/3 health and runs away to use shadow's refuge while I'm keeping him alive. I kept him alive the whole mission and after we were placed in ran mushu garden I didn't even type my usual "gj all" or anything, I just left, got my next quest and some henchies and continued.
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